８：０３ 投げられて受身を取ると言うんじゃないですね。体を痛めるから受身を練習するのじゃないんですね。柔術の場合は相手に投げさせて、自分が回って行っちゃうんですね、先に。で、相手に返し技をしたり、崩したり、その隙に腹を切って行ったり… 投げられたから、負け、そういうルールはないですね… かと言って自分勝手の速さではだめですね… 相手がいるわけですから相手に合わせて。
8:03 Ukemi is not about being thrown. Avoiding injury is not the point of practicing ukemi. In Jujutsu, one let’s one partner throw, and rolls away of one’s own accord. In doing so, reversing the technique on one’s partner, disturbing his posture, or cutting his abdomen in the opening that results. It is not that one loses because one is thrown – there is no such rule. Yet, it is not that one takes uke at just any speed. There is a practice partner. One must move with him.
Shimokawa Sensei of Lihue Aikikai once taught me something similar when I had the honor and fortune of training with him for an hour one-on-one. It was back when I was in the habit of resisting technique. Throughout the practice, he would perform techniques with greater vigor when I resisted, since the more the recipient resists, the easier it is to apply joint lock techniques like Shihonage. Most of the time, the lesson was non-verbal, since the more I resisted, the harder I fell. Sometimes, it was verbal, like “if you resist here, this becomes an opening for an elbow break.”